RE: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic

From: Kevin Brown <>
Date: Tue Nov 10 2009 - 09:40:30 PST

I agree with Bob, font fallback is always good practice. In your case, if
the glyph appears in the font with a font viewer but not with RenderX, I
would send the font in to zipped with a description of
the problem. If could be that the font is corrupt at that character.


One note, we always caution about the use of Arial Unicode MS as a font for
documents. It is a super font, containing many, many glyphs but it is not
totally open/free -- it is licensed and you should check whether you have
license to use this font.


It also has a huge copyright notice which XEP respects and includes even if
the font is subsetted. The result is an increase of probably 250K to a
document for one character.


Lastly, while not necessarily that important for the use case of RenderX in
technical publishing but of great concern to our high performance (billing,
invoicing, statements) customers ... it can take significant time to parse
the font to extract a single character. In one instance, it quadrupled the
time to render one page for a form letter application.


Kevin Brown



From: []
On Behalf Of Bob Stayton
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic


It is a common practice to specify a fallback font in the font-family
property using a font list, which is a comma-separated list of fonts. For




Also, add this property (perhaps on fo:root) to enable the feature:




Then if a the first font does not have a glyph, the processor falls back to
the next font in the list, etc.


Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises



----- Original Message -----

From: Gabriel Birke <>


Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:37 AM

Subject: RE: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic




are you sure that your version of Lucida Handwriting contains the Euro sign?
If not, then it's no mystery why the rectangle is shown - it's the standard
"character". AFAIK XEP has no provisions for having a "fallback font" for
characters that are not defined in the font file.







From: []
On Behalf Of Stijn Elst
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic

thanks for your response


I already tried &#128; and &#x80; and &#x20AC;


they all result in a rectangular character, only with that specific font,
very strange





----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Cilia Vincenti <>


Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:31 PM

Subject: RE: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic


Try using &#128;



Mark Cilia Vincenti - Freelance Internal Developer
GFI Software -


From: []
On Behalf Of Stijn Elst
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: [xep-support] euro sign with font Lucida Handwriting Italic





How can I render the euro sign using the font Lucida Handwriting Italic?


The resulting pdf only shows a square where the euro sign should be...


I have no problems with euro signs of other fonts, just with this font.


Other characters of the Lucida Handwriting Italic font render just fine.


My xep font file is correctly configured (we use v4.15).


Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Kind regards,

Stijn Elst.


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