From: Alexander Peshkov (peshkov@renderx.com)
Date: Mon May 31 2004 - 06:20:58 PDT
Hello Brice,
Sorry for delay, I was slightly overloaded last week. When you use PDF
with spot colors as an image XEP will preserve color information in
the output. As for the insertion of data - it depends strongly on the
particular case. Surely with SVG you can do all kind of things (i.e.
using XSLT), but if you simply want to place some text in predefined
places of the page - then PDF image may work fine. I'm aware that
some our clients use PDF images as background and overwrite them with
data.
Best regards,
Alexander Peshkov mailto:peshkov@renderx.com
RenderX
RB> Any further word on this? Anyone? Alexander?
RB> Ruth, Brice wrote:
>> Alexander,
>>
>> How would I go about encoding the use of CMYK and Pantone spot colors
>> in the PDF? I wouldn't mind skipping the SVG step from Illustrator
>> entirely, and using the PDF natively - but I have to admit, I'm very
>> much unsure how that works. I'm most familiar with XML & XSL, and know
>> next to nothing about PDF's native format.
>>
>> Can I use Illustrator's native PDF and still use it as a template to
>> marry data into it and have XEP produce the final PDF?
>>
>> One thing I noticed is that if I save from Illustrator, a PDF with
>> 'PRESS' settings, it correctly encodes the Pantone colors and what not
>> ... it also places the registration/crop marks which the print shop
>> would like to see (and I would have to do manually with an SVG).
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Brice
>>
>> Alexander Peshkov wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Brice,
>>>
>>> Surely RenderX XEP is not supposed to be used as 'backend' for Batik.
>>> But you can (and should :-) use XEP to achieve your goal. Simple
>>> XSL-FO document below demonstrates how you can wrap SVG image into
>>> XSL-FO:
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>>> <fo:root xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format">
>>> <fo:layout-master-set>
>>> <fo:simple-page-master master-name="main">
>>> <fo:region-body/>
>>> </fo:simple-page-master>
>>> </fo:layout-master-set>
>>> <fo:page-sequence master-reference="main">
>>> <fo:flow flow-name="xsl-region-body">
>>> <fo:block>
>>> <fo:external-graphic src="url('your_image.svg')"/>
>>> </fo:block>
>>> </fo:flow>
>>> </fo:page-sequence>
>>> </fo:root>
>>>
>>> (you can use fo:instream-foreign-object element instead of
>>> fo:external-graphic if you want to embed SVG content inside of XSL-FO.)
>>>
>>> One possible approach to your task is to write dedicated XSLT
>>> stylesheet that takes as an input SVG exported by Illustrator and
>>> required data, "marry" them and produce XSL-FO that then rendered into
>>> PDF by XEP. XEP can also use PDFs as vector images so you can save your
>>> Illustrator documents as PDF if you wish.
>>> Vector graphical formats supported by XEP described in its
>>> documentation (http://xep.xattic.com/xep/doc/spec.html#Vector)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Alexander Peshkov mailto:peshkov@renderx.com
>>> RenderX
>>>
>>>
>>> RB> Greetings.
>>>
>>> RB> I'm currently in the process of putting together a backend that
>>> will RB> take Illustrator CS created template documents, exported to
>>> SVG, then RB> married with data, to be output as a print-ready PDF.
>>> By print-ready, I RB> mean that this will go to a print shop, not so
>>> much a common printer RB> device. So, things like CMYK & Pantone spot
>>> colors are important to RB> preserve.
>>>
>>> RB> I've landed at RenderX, because I'm using Batik, which uses
>>> Apache's FOP RB> backend to generate PDFs from SVG. However, Apache's
>>> FOP doesn't handle RB> colors as well as RenderX supposedly does, so
>>> I'm here.
>>>
>>> RB> Now - my question to the list is quite simple: can I use RenderX
>>> as a RB> backend to Batik? If not, or if the process would be
>>> excessively RB> complex, can (should?) I use RenderX directly to
>>> generate a PDF from RB> SVG? If so, I'm guessing I'll need to wrap a
>>> bit of XML/XSL-FO around my RB> SVG. Without getting too deep into
>>> XSL-FO, what would be the RB> base-minimum amount of markup I would
>>> need to be able to start testing RB> the RenderX trial version?
>>>
>>> RB> What type of documentation is out there for using the more
>>> advanced RB> color extensions for RenderX? Does RenderX only support
>>> CMYK, or is RB> there a way of generating a PDF with spot-color
>>> information?! If this RB> latter point is not possible, what options
>>> am I left with to generate a RB> press-ready PDF?
>>>
>>> RB> TIA!
>>> RB> Brice Ruth
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